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Had a cowboy, don’t need a flyboy
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CommentDear editor, it has seemed in recent days that no matter what Barack Obama does he is viewed as an evil-doer, out to undermine America’s image in the world. Not only is his every word dissected and torn apart, his wife picked apart, his religious affiliation questioned, his patriotism challenged, his motives for his recent trip criticized, but he is being held up as being the darling of the media.
This has been proven wrong, however, but it is the perception of voting Americans that I question. Why is there no attempt to discern between the lies and innuendo, and why would anyone be so eager to believe something they receive in their spam inbox?
This has been proven wrong, however, but it is the perception of voting Americans that I question. Why is there no attempt to discern between the lies and innuendo, and why would anyone be so eager to believe something they receive in their spam inbox?
Why is there no questioning of why even his educational background should be ridiculed as if it was something to be ashamed of? Why should he be called an “elitist” because of it when he has paid his own college loans? It’s so easy to throw out innuendo, if not lies, and someone out there will lap it up eagerly as if they would rather enjoy the complacency of our current misery than to open their eyes to what could be. It is worth the risk — it can’t get any worse.
Obama has proven himself to be a patriotic American, to be a leader, and to have the intellectual capacity that should be required of the leader of the free world.
Obama has proven himself to be a patriotic American, to be a leader, and to have the intellectual capacity that should be required of the leader of the free world.
America is not in a bubble. We are not the center of the universe. Our leaders need to be able to work with other nations to work out the differences that threaten everyone. “Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran” is not the way I would want my president to approach that issue. It’s not even funny. What we have endured for the past eight years should not be the new standard for an American president. We’ve had a cowboy — we don’t need a fly boy. We can have more. We can have a president that we can be proud of, that we don’t have to be embarrassed for and who won’t embarrass us.
Jeannie Whelan
Jeannie Whelan
Napa
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pharper wrote on Aug 4, 2008 12:26 AM:
kevin wrote on Aug 4, 2008 5:02 AM:
funnyme wrote on Aug 4, 2008 5:05 AM:
Welcome to politics!
It's very moving to see you have been "miserable" and "embarrassed" and "hopeless" the past eight years (You ain't seen nothing yet if...)
When and "IF" B. Hussein O. becomes president you will be able to embrace the entire world with peace...
OMG...I am roflol! "
Rocketman wrote on Aug 4, 2008 6:32 AM:
jwk wrote on Aug 4, 2008 7:43 AM:
misfit wrote on Aug 4, 2008 7:55 AM:
McCain is a fake! He doesn't support the troops. He has voted against every GI issue for the past 12 years. He denounced the U.S. when he was in Hanoi. He has NOthing to offer us except tired, old, McCain cliches. Pleeeease help us. Is this all you have really?
I suggest, that if YOU want to not be naive, you check out the website
Stopthinkvote.com. This is a factual website with videos of your candidate that demonstrate well, his policies, his beliefs and the man himself. Educate yourself about your candidate then you can consciously choose to be in denial. Don't just stick your head in the sand, continue with your smarmy comments about O'bama. I know you were all bullies in the school yard. You are all sounding desperate because you make only generalized statements about Obama. You never get into the issues.
I know how this will fall out. You will start to disown McCain the second he disappoints you, which I'm sure he has already. You'll say, "Well, he wasn't my first choice for a candidate but...". How nice to be able to walk both sides of the fence. "
jwk wrote on Aug 4, 2008 8:13 AM:
starchbased wrote on Aug 4, 2008 8:16 AM:
Raven wrote on Aug 4, 2008 8:19 AM:
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is there something that Barack Obama name's that prevents Republicans from using it?.....nicknames like B.O. and B. Hussein O. went out in grade school.....or are you so afraid of he may when you cant acknowledge as a real person... "
Dwayne wrote on Aug 4, 2008 8:44 AM:
‘I will stand with the (Muslims) should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.’ Quote by Obama: From Audacity of Hope.
From Dreams of My Father: ‘I ceased to advertise my mother’s race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites.’
In his own words, he sides with terrorists, and is clearly racist. When confronted with these statements and others, he says, 'That's not what I meant." ....Right... "
plasticpinkflamingo wrote on Aug 4, 2008 8:44 AM:
funnyme wrote on Aug 4, 2008 9:05 AM:
misfit wrote on Aug 4, 2008 9:05 AM:
kevin wrote on Aug 4, 2008 9:05 AM:
We can't afford to have "on the job" training... "
misfit wrote on Aug 4, 2008 9:08 AM:
Barack HUSSEIN Obama. So there! Happy now? How childish is this going to get? "
Dwayne wrote on Aug 4, 2008 9:23 AM:
" So, Jeannie, I guess you would prefer an empty suit rock star? A rock star who doesn't even know how many states are in the US? "
PPF: There are 57 Islamic states ya know. It's soooo easy to get confused when he doesn't know which side he's on. "
Hear Ye wrote on Aug 4, 2008 9:46 AM:
Actual quote from Audacity of Hope he "attempted" to quote:
"Of course, not all my conversations in immigrant communities follow this easy pattern. In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans, for example, have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging. They have been reminded that the history of immigration in this country has a dark underbelly; they need specific assurances that their citizenship really means something, that America has learned the right lessons from the Japanese internments during World War II, and that I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."
Anyone who reads that and can find a way to interpret that as siding with the terrorist needs to get their head checked.
Also, someone mentioned the McCain town hall meeting? Oh the one that ended up being all supporters of MCCain. Those were some hard hitting questions haha. They have their three debates line up like they do every cycle.
Since everyone on all sides is officially drinking kool-aid can we retire the phrase?
Also I've touched on the whole emphasizing on Obamas middle name in the past. It's just a childish and fairly pathetic attempt at playing into people fears and prejudice. Most likely only to have any affect on people who would never vote for him anyway. "
Common Sense wrote on Aug 4, 2008 10:05 AM:
Dwayne wrote on Aug 4, 2008 10:29 AM:
All of those strike a nerve with voters when there is some question of the candidate's background and loyalty to this country. This is a trust issue.
Just one of many unnerving circumstantial and serious questions that are so glaring about Obama. "
izzy wrote on Aug 4, 2008 10:50 AM:
DO I HAVE THIS STRAIGHT?
HIS FATHER WAS A BLACK AFRICAN MUSLIM FROM KENYA .
WE HAVE SEEN PICTURES OF HIS AFRICAN FAMILY.
HIS MOTHER WAS A WHITE AMERICAN ATHEIST FROM KANSAS .
WHERE ARE THE PICTURES OF HIS AMERICAN FAMILY?
HIS FATHER DESERTED HIS MOTHER WHEN HE WAS ONLY TWO YEARS OLD AND WENT BACK TO AFRICA BY WAY OF HARVARD UNIVERSITY . HOW? WAS HIS FATHER WEALTHY?
HIS MOTHER MARRIED AN INDONESIAN MUSLIM AND THEN MOVED TO JAKARTA WHERE HE WAS ENROLLED IN A MUSLIM SCHOOL .
WHEN HE REACHED HIGH SCHOOL AGE HIS MOTHER SENT HIM TO HAWAII TO BE WITH HIS WHITE GRANDPARENTS AND HE WAS PUT INTO AN EXPENSIVE PRIVATE SCHOOL. HE LATER WENT TO HARVARD UNIVERSITY . HOW? WERE HIS GRANDPARENTS RICH?
HE LIVES IN A $1.4 MILLION HOUSE OBTAINED THROUGH A DEAL WITH A WEALTHY FUNDRAISER. HOW?
continued.. "
selim wrote on Aug 4, 2008 10:50 AM:
And the ironic thing is, most of these pro-McCain folks were ANTI-McCain in '99/2000. They didn't trust him, didn't consider him a "real" repuglican.
But now we have fear. Fear, ignorance and racism, disguised by comments about flags on planes or Muslim whatever. But it's FEAR. The people who are posting the Obama lies have already made up their minds...not from facts, or careful objective evaluation, but from fear and ignorance. "
izzy wrote on Aug 4, 2008 11:27 AM:
HE ENTERED POLITICS AT THE STATE LEVEL AND THEN THE NATIONAL LEVEL WHERE HE HAS MINIMAL EXPERIENCE.
HE IS PROUD OF HIS 'AFRICAN HERITAGE' (A FATHER WHO GOT A WHITE GIRL PREGNANT AND DESERTED HER).
WHERE IS THE PRIDE IN HIS 'WHITE HERITAGE'? (A MOTHER WHO FLAUNTED CONVENTION AND DID NOT BELIEVE IN GOD).
SOME MIGHT THINK THERE WAS NOT MUCH TO BE PROUD OF EITHER WAY.
HE BELONGS, AND HAS BELONGED FOR OVER 20 YEARS, TO AN 'AFRO-CENTRIC' CHURCH IN CHICAGO THAT HATES WHITES, HATES JEWS, AND BLAMES AMERICA FOR ALL THE WORLD'S PERCEIVED FAULTS. (INCLUDING CREATING THE AIDS virus to inflict on Africans.
cont.... "
misfit wrote on Aug 4, 2008 11:59 AM:
He was notorious. He crashed 5 planes and practically blew up an aircraft carrier all by his lonesome, (USS Forrestal).
And excuse me, but a 1.4 million dollar home is a fixer upper. How isolated are you Napans anyway? "
misfit wrote on Aug 4, 2008 12:04 PM:
kevin wrote on Aug 4, 2008 12:23 PM:
But you also have to deal with the repercussions if you choose to follow some racist, America hater.... "
izzy wrote on Aug 4, 2008 12:24 PM:
HE COULD NOT CONFRONT HIS PASTOR BUT HE WANTS US TO BELIEVE HE CAN CONFRONT NORTH KOREA AND IRAN ?
YEAH RIGHT ! !
DURING HIS VERY BRIEF TIME IN THE UNITED STATES SENATE HE HAS MANAGED TO AMASS THE NUMBER ONE ULTRA LIBERAL VOTING RECORD OUT OF THE ONE HUNDRED MEMBERS.
HE HAS VOTED CONSISTENTLY FOR BIGGER GOVERNMENT AND HIGHER TAXES. HE HAS VOTED FOR BIG ENTITLEMENTS AND LEGISLATION THAT WOULD SEVERELY CURTAIL AMERICA 'S ABILITY TO FIGHT TERRORISM AND TO PROTECT OUR BORDERS AND OUR NATIONAL INTERESTS AROUND THE WORLD.
BUT, HE IS A GOOD ORATOR. ISN'T THAT A COMFORT?
YEAH, I THINK I SEE HOW WELL HE COULD UNITE THE COUNTRY.
I THINK THE TRUTH IS THAT HE HOPES NO ONE WILL PUT THE PIECES TOGETHER! "
Dwayne wrote on Aug 4, 2008 12:26 PM:
" You know what, people have the right to worship or not worship, to believe in God or not to believe in God. Unless you want to take that right away from individuals too. You CONServatives are a joke. You speak about our freedoms and the need to fight for them yet, you're the first to condemn those whose beliefs are different whether it's who they love, who their God is or isn't. Clearly you won't be happy until we have one big homogenous, white, God FEARING, racist, society. "
You're so tight. What was I thinking in not deluding myself into bowing to the messiah and savior of the world. Must be my ability to recognize the wolf in sheep's clothing. "
izzy wrote on Aug 4, 2008 12:50 PM:
PEOPLE WHAT ARE YOU THINKING? HAVE YOU NEVER HEARD THE STORY ABOUT THE WOLF HIDING IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING SO HE CAN DESTROY THEM FROM WITH-IN ? THE HAND WRITING IS ON THE WALL, DO YOU NOT HAVE EYES TO SEE IT ?
THINK LONG AND HARD BEFORE YOU VOTE FOR THIS GUY! CONSIDER YOUR KIDS & GRANDKIDS
THEIR FUTURE IS IN OUR VOTING HANDS.
McCain Congress 26 yrs. military 22yrs.
Obie 143 days and............0 "
Common Sense wrote on Aug 4, 2008 12:52 PM:
Amazing how liberals will continue to lie about things that are easily proved false with such little effort.
You can go to YouTube and see videos of McCain's plane being hit by another missile on the flight deck of the Forrestal. He manages to jump nearly 10 feet through the fire to escape, then proceeds to help others that were taken down around the plane.
McCain's actions are truly selfless and heroic...and captured on video. It is a shame that liberal elitists choose to stoop to such levels. I guess I shouldn't be surprised...disrespecting veterans is standard operating procedure for the far left zealots currently running the Democrat party. "
glenroy wrote on Aug 4, 2008 1:25 PM:
As posted earlier…he has never held a job, he hasn‘t a clue about running a business or balancing a budget…but neither has Pelosi, Reid or Murtha, or Clinton now that I think of it… "
cab e-girl wrote on Aug 4, 2008 1:30 PM:
Furthermore, should I choose not to vote for a man who spends 20 years in a church with a man who insists on damning America then that is my choice. That doesn't make me a racist, and it doesn't make me a right wing kook that wishes to take away religious freedoms. I question Barrack Osama’s loyalty to our country because of his church affiliation, his affiliation with Bill Ayers and his failure to denounce him, his dealings with Tony Rezko, his shopping list of new social programs, his recent speeches in Europe, and his refusal to act responsibly with regards to our non-existence energy policy. Not to mention his record (or lack there of) in Congress. "
Raven wrote on Aug 4, 2008 1:36 PM:
Hear Ye wrote on Aug 4, 2008 2:09 PM:
We get it it. You got the spam e-mails about Obama.
Also, i don't know about the McCain carrier story and I personally don't particularly care. I must say though the irony and unintentional comedy of seeing some of you talk about "Libs" stooping to low levels and making accusations that are easily proven false is killing me. Does anyone else see the hilarity in a Republican saying that a group called Vietnam Vets against McCain can't be credible? hmmm reminds me od something "
kevin wrote on Aug 4, 2008 2:26 PM:
I must admit that McCain's recent ad campaign comparing B.O. with Britney Spears and Paris Hilton is totally unfair.
People actually PAY to go see Britney or Paris. B.O. has to pay the people with free beer and pizza to go see him!
Besides, Britney and Paris actually work for a living.... "
MarshaMarsha wrote on Aug 4, 2008 3:17 PM:
As always, the neighbor's dogs barking at each other through the fence are more fun to watch while accomplishing the same thing. "
izzy wrote on Aug 4, 2008 4:05 PM:
I sure did like your Hillary quote...talk about perfect timing! "
Dwayne wrote on Aug 4, 2008 4:18 PM:
A February 24, 2005, Washington Post article begins:
"Andy Warhol said we all get our 15 minutes of fame," says Barack Obama. "I've already had an hour and a half. I mean, I'm so overexposed, I'm making Paris Hilton look like a recluse."
That is pretty much the who and the why of Sen. McCain's explanation of his ad, is it not? It turns out he wasn't mocking Sen. Obama so much as channeling him. "
izzy wrote on Aug 4, 2008 4:18 PM:
You Can't HANDLE the Truth! "
freeport56 wrote on Aug 4, 2008 4:42 PM:
pharper wrote on Aug 4, 2008 4:45 PM:
I wasn't aware that a person's parents had any bearing on whether or not they'd be a good president. Barack H. Obama's mother being an atheist, or his father "abandoning a white girl" (does it matter what color she was?) isn't anything to do with Obama's politics--the great thing about America is that ANYONE can become president, as long as they were born in the United States; background and family have no bearing on it. A mother who flaunts convention? Oooh, scary. If people hadn't flaunted convention, we wouldn't have women's rights, African American rights or interracial marriage—we wouldn’t even have this COUNTRY--but that's neither here nor there.
Second, give me proof that Obama's (former) church believes that America created the AIDS virus to infect Africans. I bet you can't find any; it's another racist assumption. Just because the pastor has spouted some ugly things doesn't mean the entire church is like that, and it doesn't mean that Obama shares the same principles--he broke away from that church, remember?
I will acknowledge that McCain is a hero of war; he is a true patriot. However, having been in the military is NOT a requirement to be defined as a patriot (if it were, most Americans aren't patriots) and Obama's family background, the school he went to (uhm, he got into and graduated from Harvard, not an easy feat), and his color don't preclude being a good American in the least. Neither does his middle name.
Just more fear tactics being spread by conservatives. Hard to take that seriously. "
izzy wrote on Aug 4, 2008 5:28 PM:
cab e girl...Great post! "
diehard4ever wrote on Aug 4, 2008 5:50 PM:
Please keep posting! Hope to see u at Bloggermania 2!
izzy-
Keep Posting! I definitely want to meet you at Bloggermania 2!
hear ye-
Since all those e-mails that I've been getting about Barry and his family are spam, how come I haven't been getting any about who his family really is, not the junk that we conservatives have "created"???
Since you obviously know the truth, why don't you tell us about the "real" Obamas???
Even if it was in your "Spam Box", that's fine. Please shed some light on this subject. "
Dwayne wrote on Aug 4, 2008 7:12 PM:
Wasn't the Reverend Wright hate-America rant enough to curdle milk...???
As a true capitalist, I think I should go into the prayer rug business. "
Dwayne wrote on Aug 4, 2008 8:02 PM:
The media is the third party in this country, and they think they are running the show.
Obama has been exposed all over the internet. Stop turning a blind eye to the truth. Bush-hating has y'all's brains so warped that you can't think straight...
Stop and think reasonably, instead of beating the drum to drown out the oppostion. Obama is an empty suit, and a wolf in sheep's clothing... He ain't who he claims to be...... "
Dwayne wrote on Aug 4, 2008 8:20 PM:
diehard4ever wrote on Aug 4, 2008 9:00 PM:
I know it's not spam.
I am not a Bush hater. I am grateful he is protecting us all (libs included) from another attack like the one on 9-11
Now, BHO in the other hand does not seem to be very happy with his new clothes. They don't fit!...if you understand what I mean. "
plasticpinkflamingo wrote on Aug 4, 2008 9:34 PM:
Raven wrote on Aug 4, 2008 9:44 PM:
MarshaMarsha wrote on Aug 5, 2008 12:24 AM:
By the way... Logic would dictate that you believe McCain is pretty deep in the mud, since you have to shove his opponent so much deeper. Get a grip on THAT truth. "
russ wrote on Aug 5, 2008 8:09 PM:
no one is trying to convert voters on the other side, we are just chucking spears over the wall in these forums (fora?) Just join in the fun. You are good at it.
Who is Barack Obama anyway? Does anyone agree that for a guy who has ZERO resume and changes his mind weekly (generous) he is scarily close to being president of the USA? "
barefoot wrote on Aug 5, 2008 10:26 PM:
funnyme wrote on Aug 6, 2008 12:52 AM:
Some seem to forget and keep on living in the past hoping the future will bring "the change" needed to go back to the past...Go figure! "
cellsitegod wrote on Aug 6, 2008 5:31 AM:
How about "none of the above"
I lost interest when Clinton and Obama were busy attacking each other and avoiding the issues. And as far as McCain I don't think this country can handle another 4 years of a "George Jr Jr".
George Jr is leaving this country in a shamble and make as much money for his oil cronies before he leaves.
For the first time, the dollar is weaker than European currency.
This country is in serious trouble.
And until these 2 candidate stop attacking each other as Obama and Clinton did. Start telling me where they stand on our country's problems and how they are going to correct them. Neither one desrves my vote. "
misfit wrote on Aug 6, 2008 5:36 AM:
Have you heard his latest ad? He says Americans are worse off than 4 years ago while saying they were better off in the primary debates. This ad is pro Obama if anything. It basically lists everything that has gone wrong under Republican rule the past 8 years. Thanks John. "
Dwayne wrote on Aug 7, 2008 7:25 PM:
Raven wrote on Aug 8, 2008 5:33 AM:
cellsitegod wrote on Aug 8, 2008 6:36 AM:
I dread the next 4 years regardless of who wins! "
Common Sense wrote on Aug 8, 2008 9:06 AM:
"As you may know, not long ago a couple hundred thousand Berliners made a lot of noise for my opponent. I'll take the roar of 50,000 Harleys any day."
He's got my vote. "
misfit wrote on Aug 9, 2008 5:58 AM:
common sense wrote on Aug 9, 2008 10:05 AM:
-Actually, it was more Obama's positions on things that converted me to McCain.
To summarize, Obama (and the far left as well) seem to think that American might is sinister, soldiers are criminalized by war, Christians are intolerant and hypocritical, housewives are desperate, corporations are evil, the environment is in mortal danger from wicked man and, in general, something is terribly wrong with mainstream society that only the wisdom of radical types can cure.
Did I miss anything? "
Raven wrote on Aug 9, 2008 3:19 PM:
glenroy wrote on Aug 9, 2008 4:28 PM:
misfit wrote on Aug 9, 2008 4:49 PM:
Skip M. wrote on Aug 9, 2008 8:58 PM:
Raven wrote on Aug 9, 2008 9:53 PM:
misfit wrote on Aug 9, 2008 10:54 PM:
Are you willing to sacrifice more American lives for this man's inability to do the job required? That is to be able to deal with conflicts in a more diplomatic way. "Diplomacy" is essential. "
cellsitegod wrote on Aug 10, 2008 6:17 AM:
The people in that region have been fighting like that for centuries. They somewhat tribal.
A whole new generation of Iraqies would have to grow up in a fair democractic society for them to understand and embrace it.
Are we ready to occupy that country and lose that many American lives for 20+ years?
Let them do what they want as long as they don't start using WMD's "
Skip M. wrote on Aug 10, 2008 7:20 AM:
glenroy wrote on Aug 10, 2008 9:17 AM:
Having never held a job in the private sector is one thing, but living his entire life dependant upon the rest of us for some form of social welfare, grants, loans, subsidies and pay check….aren’t exactly relative skills....and there are no fiscal Democrats left in either house…and only a few Republicans for that matter…perfected incompetence.
Declaring al qaeda the victors after the ‘surge’ had clearly demonstrated that the Iraqis would stand and fight is typical dogmatic leftist jingo… ‘Lose if at all possible.’
Economy wise…Obama is ….Jimmy Carter reincarnated foolish…oblivious to things like trends...cause and effect…correlations…consequences…’not drilling high oil prices?’
Electing people who have no experience in management or ownership, not spending public money management, management as in providing something in a competitive market, has slowing but surely ruined manufacturing segments of our economy, every year they add a little tax here….there…to the point we have second highest corporate tax rate in the developed world and still creeping up annually…and they wonder why manufacturing goes off shore? ….Obama’s taxation policies will accelerate off shoring…
Our tax structure is now such that it rewards the segment of society that is ruining our economy…if someone had any brains they would have limited political office income to no more than previously earned ‘net’ tax paying income….what could by more far?…
At least that would dispel this ‘myth’ that holding public office is public service…pillaging the treasury and becoming overnight millionaires somehow doesn’t equate to public service in my book….and Obama’s just the latest one to come along, same show different dog…. "
my name here wrote on Aug 10, 2008 9:51 AM:
MarkMathews wrote on Aug 10, 2008 11:05 AM:
MarkMathews wrote on Aug 10, 2008 11:11 AM:
glenroy wrote on Aug 10, 2008 3:14 PM:
I happened to oppose the liberation of Iraq…until the bullets started flying, then it’s just about united support. More than few of us felt the temptation of undermining the war would prove too much…or the patriotic rhetoric of the left was merely a fleeting moment…either way. I have no qualms with those who were opposed before the war and more than a few close friends reside there politically.
Iraq has turned out far better than I had expected and I had no misgivings of the magnitude of the challenge.…that said, we need to get the heck out of there when Iraqis are capable of defending themselves…which assuming progress continues is in sight…our own domestic oil resources is the only assurance of our permanent withdrawal… "
Skip M. wrote on Aug 10, 2008 8:31 PM:
make napa better wrote on Aug 10, 2008 11:44 PM:
I don't know any of the facts to form an opinion (so this is just funny) I bet you all miss Hilary now... "
ADark1 wrote on Aug 11, 2008 4:16 AM:
Well, I can't let ya diss my whack a brat partner tho politically he's a bit misguided! :)
1. No matter who is the next President, this country will be in a MAJOR mess for some time to come. Thanks Repubs!
2. No matter what anyone says, I'd personally much rather have Obama as the next President as opposed to a man who could embrace someone who dissed his family, exploited his daughter on national TV. Furthermore, he then HIRED the same guys to run his campaign. BTW, O attended the church ONLY ten years, Mac hates MLK Day.
The Repubs are smart on the new attack ads. As McCain either can't remember, or LIES in every attack ad they've had,
.Its best to make the election a referendum on Obama.
Does anyone in their RIGHT mind think McCain can in fact handle Obama in a debate?
What I find MOST disturbing here is repubs,are willing to walk like lemmings right over the cliffs as opposed to questioning its leadership and claims anyone who does is Un-American etc.
I find it "interesting" that McCain now is basically agreeing with Obama as how to handle the mess in Iraq.
I find it ironic that a certain News organization other then Faux news felt sorry for him and did some fancy editing.
BOTH candidates leave LOTS to be desired..however which is the best of the 2?
Anyone that still believes McCain is the better of the two is really smoking some great stuff.
Mac has either flip flopped, lied or looking at his advanced age "forgot" everything he originally stood for. BTW?..There is NO classroom for People who want the Presidency. "
misfit wrote on Aug 11, 2008 7:08 AM:
Seems like he gave up a bit more than his name, rank and serial number. Hmmmm. "
diehard4ever wrote on Aug 11, 2008 9:52 AM:
You have been brainwashed to believe that a man that stayed with a pastor who OPENLY DISSED our country year after year is more patriotic than a man who spent more than 5 YEARS in absolute H*** while defending this country and is still mentally sound.
UNBELIEVABLE!!! "
Common Sense wrote on Aug 11, 2008 1:27 PM:
-He opposed restrictions on partial birth abortion and requiring medical care for fetuses who are born alive during an abortion.
-He opposed requiring school officials to install pornography-blocking software on public computers accessible to minors.
-He opposed a $500 income tax credit for parents who send their children to private schools.
-He supported restrictions on gun ownership, and opposed a bill that permitted the owner of an unregistered handgun to claim self-defense if he used the gun in his own home.
-He consistently voted in favor of higher taxes.
Additionally, Obama has received "100" ratings from:
-Americans for Democratic Action -Planned Parenthood
-The AFL-CIO
-The American Federation of Government Workers
-Citizens for Tax Justice (i.e., for raising taxes on the "rich")
-Americans United for the Separation of Church and State
-The National Education Association
-The National Organization for Women
He has received "F" grades from:
-The National Taxpayers Union
-The National Rifle Association
-U.S. English
He has a 13 rating from Citizens Against Government Waste, a 7 rating from the Club for Growth, the American Conservative Union, and the Eagle Forum, and zero ratings from the Family Research Council, the National Right to Life Committee, and Americans for Tax Reform.
And, he was named the Most Liberal Senator for 2007 by the National Journal.
Obama is not exactly a bipartisan guy. Think the politics in our country are sour now? It will be much worse with Obama in the White House. I do not want Obama approving every crazy idea that comes out of our far-left liberal Congress. "
Raven wrote on Aug 11, 2008 5:13 PM:
btw...medically there is no such thing as a partial birth abortion.....
and that software...also blocks links to sites like the American cancer society for breast caner research, the CDC for info about SDTs....
sorry...why should I give a tax subsidy to anyone who wants to put their child in a private school...if you want a private school, then by all means, puts you child in it...but dont ask me to help pay for it.
all for sensible regulation of gun ownership...
and it is time we let the tax cuts die and reduce the massive deficits this 'conservative' administration has been running.....
so again, why should I vote for someone who is wishy washy on issues I support?...I dont see very people on the opposite side of the aisle reaching in a bipartisan spirit in suppport of their beliefs? "
misfit wrote on Aug 11, 2008 6:19 PM:
Yes...McCain made over 20 films during his time as a POW, denouncing the U.S. He has called himself, in a 60 Minutes interview, a war criminal yet, he continued to do the wrong thing, going against his own beliefs.
For some reason, those films are now locked up.
Now...have you also heard about how he left his 1st wife after she was disfigured in a car accident and went chasing after Cindy, while he was still married? His kids don't speak to him.
Have you heard what he called his wife in front of reporters and campaign aides several years back? I don't want to hear anything about how the media is biased for Obama when they have done nothing but cover up the real truth about McCain. Believe what you want...I could care less about changing your mind. I just find it amusing, how shut off you are and desperate to believe in this "Emperor with no clothes". "
ADark1 wrote on Aug 11, 2008 8:21 PM:
MAYBE THAT will get posted! "
Skip M. wrote on Aug 12, 2008 10:13 AM:
Here is the Skip M. platform:
1) Drill for oil where ever it can be found.
2) Legalize Marijuana and Prostitution (consenting adults only).
3) Arm ALL U.S. Citizens. (An armed society is a polite society.)
4) Extend public education through the community college level.
5) ALL juvenile crime shall be punishable by public flogging with a Bamboo cane.
6) ALL acts of vandalism shall be similarly punishable by public flogging. (Wounds to be immediately treated with rubbing alcohol to prevent infection.)
7) Capital punishment for murderers and sex offenders who’s victims are children.
8) Attack the U.S., be ready for payback.
9) Support the U.S. militarily? You can rest assured we will be there in force for you.
10) In the bible, God asks 10%. The government should be entitled to no more than that. Flat tax of 5% in incomes, and a consumption tax of 5%. No write-offs. No loop-holes. "
ADark1 wrote on Aug 12, 2008 10:28 PM:
I'll attempt to be civil...Diehard4ever..Once upon a time I attempted to strongly suggest you fully research BOTH sides of an issue before commenting with out bursts such as the above. The fact that you've done it yet again suggests that you haven't done your homework. Please refrain from said outbursts until you can back up your reasons for aforesaid outbursts with proof, facts and logic. I'm sure although you may be our little "darling" here, you are in fact STILL a child. As such, you want to run with the big dawgs..I humbly suggest until you do the aforesaid mentioned..Its probably wiser you stay on the porch.
Respectfully submitted,
ADARK1 "
ADark1 wrote on Aug 12, 2008 10:39 PM:
1. Obama only attended the church for approx 10 years NOT 20.
2. If you are going to quote the Rev Wright..Please do so in context. IF and ONLY IF you do?, You will see that as a PASTOR quoting religious doctrine or dogma,( please attempt to stay with me here) He is essentially correct.
Watch the entire sermon or do NOT bother to quote him out of context.
Now there are some who will NOT bother to review the entire sermon, '
Don't bother to bash me or label me as a Black Nationalist..If you do w/out reviewing the entire sermon? Then you're as good to me as Farrakhan is..( Yes I despise the man as well as Jesse Jackson but at another time) What additionally bugs me is the hypocrisy of what a Black Pastor is allowed to say on the national stage as oppsed to those such as Billy Graham, Jerry Farwell and the rest of those hyenas.
So again, if you're going to bring it? Then do so...make sure you FULLY verify your facts before you attack. Having been brought up in the church, I for one am tired of the hypocrisy, lies and bull( fill in the blanks). I await your response. "
ADark1 wrote on Aug 12, 2008 10:54 PM:
How many of you know that McCain collects for being 100% DISABLED? I would venture a guess that any of you who attempted the same would be locked up!
Things that make you go hmmmmmmm. "
kevin wrote on Aug 13, 2008 3:50 PM:
The reason they get so upset is because they know you are correct. You are obviously correct because otherwise B.O.'s poll numbers would be MUCH higher. The fact that he is basically TIED with McCain at this point is a HUGE concern to the Dems. They are getting very nervous thinking that maybe they are backing a dead horse. (And they may be right).
People respond to B.O.'s soaring rhetoric, but it is starting to get a little old. When people look beyond the pretty speeches, what do they see? Someone who never had a real job, who was a "community activist" (like Reverend Sharpton), who attended church for years with an angry and biased pastor. They see someone who had 143 days experience in National politics when he decided to run for President. They see someone who, when the teleprompter is turned off, speaks almost as poorly as George Bush. (Why else won't B.O. debate McCain in town hall settings?) They see someone who constantly runs down our country and emphasizes the negatives.
For all his faults, McCain obviously loves his country and is far more inspirational. People respect the service he has done for his country and his dedication to her defense.
I still think the election is going to be a referendum on B.O. It is his to win or lose... "
a teacher wrote on Aug 13, 2008 4:21 PM:
Personally, I think either will make a fine president if elected. I'm leaning towards Obama because I am a liberal, but I don't think that McCain will be the disaster that the current occupant of the White House is.
Oh, and I passed beer through my nse at the following:"A web site called Vietnam Vets against John McCain is hardly credible. Most reasonable Americans will choose to listen to the men he served with, the men who served under him, his superiors and the men he was held prisoner with. Your accusations are disrespectful, elitist and uninformed. "
and
"Amazing how liberals will continue to lie about things that are easily proved false with such little effort...I guess I shouldn't be surprised...disrespecting veterans is standard operating procedure for the far left zealots currently running the Democrat party. "
You guys apparantly have forgotten what you did to Kerry in the last election. It's even a verb now - swift boating".
It's really too bad we can't just talk about isues without resorting to character attacks and cartoon characterization. "
Raven wrote on Aug 13, 2008 4:29 PM:
and the referendum will be on the failed policies of the Bush adminsitration and seeing how close McCain can wrap himself in McCain's arms as he courts the conservatives....hiring rove's boys for his campaign gives us a clue I think. "
Raven wrote on Aug 13, 2008 8:40 PM:
kevin wrote on Aug 13, 2008 9:05 PM:
Ronald Reagan was Governor of the State of California, the 7th largest economy in the world, from 1967 to 1975.
Wiki lists the gubernatorial powers as follows:
The Executive Budget
The Veto
Recommending Legislation
Calling Special Sessions
Appointing State Officers
Power as Political Leader.
Commander in Chief of the State Militia
Executive Clemency
Regent of the University of California
Verses a US Senator, who is but one vote among a hundred and whose hardest decision is where to have lunch... "
diehard4ever wrote on Aug 13, 2008 9:37 PM:
ADark1-
I find it interesting that:
1. You jump straight into defending B.O., but don't bother to tell me what McCain did to "denounce the country".
2. CAIR misquoted Michael Savage and you didn't say a word. I listen to that show and he has never said ANYTHING that CAIR claims that he has said, but when I mention Reverend Not-So-Right's anti-American comment that is all over YouTube, Michael Savage's website, and basically all over the internet you say I "misquoted" him.
I know what this world is coming to. I've seen it up close. The brainwashing, the over the top racism and discrimination. I've debated just me against 20 or so fellow, liberal classmates and won. You ever tried that? I'm not staying on the porch. What's happening right now is what's going to be in MY future, and I want a say in what's going on. It's no use arguing with you guys. It's stupid, pointless. You give the same answers that we have proved wrong again and again.
BTW-
When did I say he was with him for twenty years? Either way, ten years is far too long for deciding if the guy's a good reverend. It should've taken him 6 months at the MOST. If he stayed with him for TEN YEARS it was obviously because he believed what he was saying. B.O. is a wolf in sheep's skin trying to take over the U.S, by telling the liberals who believe anything that they are gonna make things all better. I'm not buying it. You obviously are.
So, who's the child here?
Very, very respectfully,
diehard4ever "
ADARK1 wrote on Aug 14, 2008 4:34 AM:
Seeing as I NEVER made the initial statement I had no reason to respond to it. Typical neo attack, accusing me of something I NEVER said.
2"but .. Reverend Not-So-Right's anti-American comment that is all over YouTube, Michael Savage's website, and ....you say I "misquoted" him. "
Again that was NOT in my comment to you. However, I do NOTICE you show NO sign of having listened to the sermon in its entireity, had you done so you'd have a different response
3".BTW-
When did I say he was with him for twenty years?"
I never accused you of such ,again your point is moot.
Speaking of debate, I've done more then quite a few from Jr. High all the way to pre - law.
Here is MY problem as I see it ,concerning the "sneers" you and others give when you think someone is a liberal. Your comments sound suspiciously like that of one who's thought processes have been PROGRAMMED as opposed to free, fluent and well researched thought. I still believe you have potential, however I believe its being stifled under the blanket of being a conservative and republican when there is far more to it then the mindless repetition of what you are exposed to as real independent political analylisis and truth.
You need to be exposed to more unless your mind is already closed to anything that is NOT neo -con dogma.
That is what I believe and my experience in life and thru college has given me the logical thought process to make that type judgement. What exactly gives you the same? "
ADARK1 wrote on Aug 14, 2008 4:53 AM:
at times I state..."And now back to our reguler DEPROGRAMMING"! Have any of you really given a thought to what that means?
When doing my undergrad in San Diego, I did an entire quarter on cultism and mind control. I daresay, the neo con ultra right and left wing attacks and methods are very akin to programming. The rest of the hubris would or could be found under DSMIV or the book of psych disorders.
I really am wondering when did it stop being acceptable to question what our leaders did or are doing?
I'm going to make a wager. I bet that when history reviews the past 10 years of Republican control in politics it will NOT be favorable. The proof in the pudding is already coming to light. America is so desperate from a departure of the present mind set that it has in FACT caused Obama to become the one we look to put America back on course. No matter which way you slice it, There is NO trust in the politics of old ,so those in power are so desperate to keep it, they are even willing to use children to spout their venom.
Hitler did the same thing..... "
ADARK1 wrote on Aug 14, 2008 5:22 AM:
Now, again...I think all thinking Americans need to take a hard look at the facts NOT some carp from right or left wing emails,blogs and websites.
McCain as President would allow the influence peddlers to retain their stranglehold on American Policy and the way the country is run.
BTW, Kevin, You DO realize that McCain has NEVER held any other office other then US Senator right? You go on and on things like "I still think the election is going to be a referendum on B.O. It is his to win or lose.
Again what does that remark really mean?... I thought the election would be on who was the BEST Candidate...
And NOW! Back to our regular DEPROGRAMMING! "
misfit wrote on Aug 14, 2008 6:23 AM:
ADARK1 wrote on Aug 14, 2008 7:07 AM:
The MAJOR reason why Mac's numbers have gone up is due to the attack ads...Be honest even though they have been shown to be false, attack ads work..So his numbers are up.. Overall, unless the right figures out a way to rig the election he's toast.
Also, Speaking about those townhall meetings, problem was they were pre set up to be filled with McCain supporters...NOT an OPEN balanced forum...WHY should hethen allow the McCain Campaign dictate to him? That would make mac's job so much easier..
Obama also had a real job best to recheck his resume kevin. Equating what Obama did to another idiot like Al Sharpton is yet doing another disservice to the man. Attack him on something else but you stringing him to idiots like sharpton and the rest is getting quite old. He is and has way more smarts then that and so does the rest of the American public. "
Raven wrote on Aug 14, 2008 7:56 AM:
glenroy wrote on Aug 14, 2008 8:07 AM:
funnyme wrote on Aug 14, 2008 9:01 AM:
"...There is NO trust in the politics of old ,so those in power are so desperate to keep it, they are even willing to use children to spout their venom.
Hitler did the same thing..... "
I totally agree with you - funny you have an obsession with Hitler though.
American children are getting "programmed" at school (elementary all the way to college) with all the liberal agenda, as parents we have the obligation to "re-program" them at home so they can become successful independent adults in order for them to continue supporting CAPITALISM the way the founder fathers intended for the GREATEST Nation on Earth to be.
Sorry to disappoint you ;) "
kevin wrote on Aug 14, 2008 9:01 AM:
LOL. Like B.O. is NOT in the pocket of the UNIONS and the LAWYERS? Of course you probably don't consider them to be "influence peddlers"... "
kevin wrote on Aug 14, 2008 9:07 AM:
You had to go back 150 YEARS to find a Presidential candidate with inexperience comparable to B.O.???
I rest my case... "
Raven wrote on Aug 14, 2008 9:23 AM:
Raven wrote on Aug 14, 2008 9:27 AM:
Notice that it seems much easier to dismiss a point of voice when it is the Libs or Democrats or any other label..then address the speaker as aperson "
diehard4ever wrote on Aug 14, 2008 9:48 AM:
It's funny that you discredit my arguments based on my lack of experience and youth, when you use those same points to support B.O.
ADARK1 wrote on Aug 14, 2008 5:22 AM:
" Those of you who claim Obama doesn't have enough experience lets look at this,Abraham Lincoln served in the Illinois Legislature for four terms, but at the national level, he served only two years in House of Representatives. John Kennedy served six years in the House and was a one-term-Senator before he entered the Oval Office at the ripe age of 43. Bill Clinton was 46 when he became president. Barack Obama is 47..."
Does that mean I am becoming a liberal because of my youth? 8)
"...speaking about those townhall meetings, problem was they were pre set up to be filled with McCain supporters...NOT an OPEN balanced forum..."
If Obama can't stand up to a room full of Republicans and make a decent sized dent in most of them, I don't see why a man who "speaks for the minorities" can't stand up against a majority. "
Common Sense wrote on Aug 14, 2008 9:56 AM:
-I much prefer to call him by his given name...Barack Hussein Obama. It's Arabic. His dad was Muslim.
Liberals seem to have a problem with his full name, and call everyone using his full name a racist. Funny...I thought liberals were multiculturalists. "
ADARK1 wrote on Aug 14, 2008 10:01 AM:
No matter right or left, Something has come to my attention that frankly scares the "carp" out of me!
I'll again ask you to look at the North American Union that Bush signed w/out hearings or anything else. Look that up then the "new" version is listed on a US Government site called spp. Look up
http://www.spp.gov/ . If you look at it carefully, it IMHO WILL and already IS ERODING our sovereignty as a Democracy. I sincerely believe it is a visual of the so called shadow government. Lou Dobbs first exposed it on CNN.
BTW, I found about in depth about this from the Conservative roundtable..You can look that up or conservative usa .
Funny thing one of the people who are involved and scared is the same guy who authored the book the swiftboaters used on John Kerry. So PLEASE review this and I await your comments. Left or right, I sincerely believe this is SOMETHING ALL of us need to take a hard look at. "
ADARK1 wrote on Aug 14, 2008 10:13 AM:
however, Obama isn't 12 years old. :)! Gotta admit though you gave me my second smile of the morning!
"If Obama can't stand up to a room full of Republicans and make a decent sized dent in most of them, I don't see why a man who "speaks for the minorities" can't stand up against a majority. " Oh come on DH, so he should give Mac "practice"? Puuhlease!
You are too funny!
Kevin,
LOL. Like B.O. is NOT in the pocket of the UNIONS and the LAWYERS? Of course you probably don't consider them to be "influence peddlers!"
I would agree, both are influence peddlers.....however imagine what we'd be like w/out unions..I dont mean like the idiots that messed up the hotel deal either. People used to be beaten, shot and stabbed for fighting for decent working conditions and pay when big business ran things. So you're saying we should return to that again?
Kevin! come on now!
Common Sense , Why not admit the REAL reason you use his full name, I doubt you having respect for him is the reason. Its immature and childish and won't stop anyone from voting for him unless they believe he's a radical muslim and an agent of al queda. Any one believing that has more issues then can be discussed here. "
diehard4ever wrote on Aug 14, 2008 10:47 AM:
" cute arguement diehard ,
however, Obama isn't 12 years old. :)! Gotta admit though you gave me my second smile of the morning!.."
You only proved B.O. is way too old to play this kind of games that us, the 12 year olds play!
I haven't stopped ROFLOL since your postings last night and this morning.
You are really mad, aren't you?
8) "
Raven wrote on Aug 14, 2008 11:10 AM:
can only someone not a Muslim be a candidate for president?....
and my name is of Scottish origin.....so what?....what does the origin of anyone's name have to do? "
Common Sense wrote on Aug 14, 2008 1:56 PM:
Obama's middle name doesn't bother me a bit. However, the fact that liberals play the victim card every time his middle name is mentioned bothers me greatly. The way in which liberals try to smear and suppress the speech of anyone discussing it (Adark1's last paragraph says it all) is of even greater concern. "
Raven wrote on Aug 14, 2008 4:59 PM:
cab e-girl wrote on Aug 14, 2008 5:28 PM:
ADark1 wrote on Aug 14, 2008 6:36 PM:
"It could be true that [donations] were made, but as a part of a deliberate set-up to make Obama look bad. ... Aaron Klein reports from the Israel for WND. ... Again, obviously if an actual illegal donation was actually made it should be returned, but it would be interesting to find out who really made it and why," reads an article on the Daily Kos site.
"By the way, Aaron Klein is clearly an [sic] conservative anti-Obama reporter for the ultra-right-wing WorldNetDaily," the site contends.
In response, WND editor and publisher Joseph Farah commended the Daily Kos team for "their imagination in suggesting WND actually set up the Palestinian donations to the Obama campaign."
Source - World Net Daily "
ADark1 wrote on Aug 14, 2008 6:40 PM:
The donations violate election laws, including prohibitions on receiving contributions from foreigners and against accepting more than $2,300 from one individual during a single election
"My brother Hosam and I knew that Obama will be a big hit even before he became a candidate. We knew the guy would be a celebrity in Gaza so we decided to invest the amount of $29,000 to buy Obama T-shirts from his website and sell them in Gaza," Monir Edwan told WND, speaking by cell phone from Gaza.
Asked how he managed to get shipments of T-shirts into the Gaza Strip during the time Israel imposed a tight closure, Edwan maintained the packages were sent to him by the U.S. Postal Service.
Monir Edwan said he wants Obama to be president.
"Not just the people in Gaza but people from all over the world are rooting for this great man," he told WND. "
common sense wrote on Aug 14, 2008 7:34 PM:
-It's not. I'm not religious. However, considering we are at war with Islamic extremists, connections with the Muslim world should be looked at carefully. Having a Muslim father, along with the comments written in Obama's books about Islam, need to be carefully considered. If Baptist extremists were crashing airliners in to skyscrapers or killing our troops, I would want the exact same discussion for a Baptist presidential candidate. I don't think that's too much to ask, and I don't like the suppression of discussion that the far-left liberals running the democrat party have instigated.
We are talking about the most powerful job in the free world. All candidates must be carefully scrutinized openly. And one should not be considered a racist or a religious bigot because of it. "
russ wrote on Aug 14, 2008 10:22 PM:
My friend,
I am trying to follow you but am just an old white guy. No comprende, mon ami.
Sorry, but I am on a different wavelength.
Are you in the Palestinian brotherhood?
Shalom! "
Raven wrote on Aug 15, 2008 4:55 AM:
By your standards, JFK would not qualify, being Irish and Catholic, and since the IRA was a terrorist organization ...and Catholics were supposed to be giving obedience to the Pope in spiritual and temporal matters...not to mention his father being connected to organized crime in the 20s.... "
misfit wrote on Aug 15, 2008 8:02 AM:
What if you are? "
cab e-girl wrote on Aug 15, 2008 8:49 AM:
kevin wrote on Aug 15, 2008 3:51 PM:
Raven wrote on Aug 15, 2008 8:00 PM:
as for Gallup-, they are thye only one I could see that has it a tie....the other major polls have Obama anywhere from 3 to 8 points ahead... "
hear ye wrote on Aug 16, 2008 12:35 AM:
your comment doesn't make any sense since Obama is a Christian. Thanks for playing though. "
ADark1 wrote on Aug 16, 2008 12:56 AM:
Shhhhh they already think I belong to some shadow org. Don't make things worse for me. My point was...why call him by his full name when everyone knows that was one of the firt things used to discredit him..I believe by Billary herself.
Its really gotten old to me at least. I wasn't infering you were a bigot you crazy.....Oh no NOT gonna go there! I BET some of you THINK you know what I was gonna say...Heh well I DIDNT!
One wonders if you've got some kinda complex at this point..I probably do But I'm too stupid to care. Just ask anyone who's watched me put my foot in my mouth and had help putting feet elsewhere's on my bod. In the meantime I'm weathering yet another round of attacks on my comps...Seems some folks don't think I should work for a living. "
John Richards wrote on Aug 16, 2008 12:38 PM:
John Richards wrote on Aug 16, 2008 12:43 PM:
freeport56 wrote on Aug 16, 2008 1:45 PM:
It is unimaginable to me that you even have to ask that question.
For me I do not want a President of the U.S., or even a congressman for that fact, taking the oath of office on the Qu'ran! "
Hear ye wrote on Aug 16, 2008 3:45 PM:
Raven wrote on Aug 16, 2008 7:00 PM:
I checked the constitution and there is no requirement that a president use any holy text for taking office...."I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."
Where do you see the words under God and where does it say under whose God? "
russ wrote on Aug 16, 2008 10:19 PM:
My friend, I get it. We are on different sides on some things but we wish for the same result.
Did you see the "debate" tonight? I was impressed. How about you? "
John Richards wrote on Aug 17, 2008 4:38 PM:
Hmmm, the latest Field poll has McCain and Obama tied at 46% each. So where is the evidence of this desperation you mentioned? "
John Richards wrote on Aug 17, 2008 4:50 PM:
Check your facts again. The Indonesian school Obama attended in Jakarta is nominally a public school, yet it required all students to study the Quran, Islam’s holy book. Islam is the dominant religion in Indonesia, and Islamic teachings and customs permeate the fabric of society there. Also, Obama's Indonesian step-father was a Muslim. "
Hear ye wrote on Aug 17, 2008 8:30 PM:
Ok i checked again for you. Obama lived in Indonesia for 4 years from the age 6-10 with his mother and his step father who was a NON practicing Muslim. In those four years he spent two at a public school and two at a Catholic school. "
Raven wrote on Aug 17, 2008 8:38 PM:
diehard4ever wrote on Aug 18, 2008 6:09 AM:
since you're finally back after that long break, can you pleeease answer my question?
hear ye-
Since all those e-mails that I've been getting about Barry and his family are spam, how come I haven't been getting any about who his family really is, not the junk that we conservatives have "created"???
Since you obviously know the truth, why don't you tell us about the "real" Obamas???
Even if it was in your "Spam Box", that's fine. Please shed some light on this subject. " "
Hear ye wrote on Aug 18, 2008 12:44 PM:
It's not customary for political spam e-mail to be positive honest information about a candidate. You need to sign up for a candidates e-mail list for that. It's the same reason I only get negative and usually dishonest e-mails about McCain.
And as much as I would love to sit here and type Obamas life story I won't. Those smear e-mails have been debunked over and over again and the truth is easily attainable. You (meaning people in general) need to take some responsibility in fact checking information given to you. Did you know McCain has secretly fathered children with a black woman? An e-mail told me so. "